5/27/2004

self indulgence

I am glad you like that new title "From Beijing to Being" I thought about yesterday. I have all the materials from Beijing, and now all I have to do is to get to Being. That quote I sent you from my diary 4 years ago was translated directly into English while I was writing to you. The sentence "Maybe I am myself a mistake" is actually "Maybe I myself am wrong". I found it very difficult for me to translate between these two languages, because I appreciate the subtleties of the each language and there is really not a one-to-one mapping for translation that I am satisfied with. Thank you for your comments and suggestions. If we were to do this (put my old Chinese writings into English in the book), then I will have to rely on your help.

You do write English so well! (with European accent though).

Here's another good one, from age 16 (year 1987): "Today I studied, read, took a walk, slept, ate, watched TV, read the newspaper. My day is just like this. It is like a flower without the stigma, a seed without the nut. No taste at all..... (read a novel, learned something about the Christian religion.) I am (or I am like) a lost sheep. I cannot find my god. I listened to the Christian preaching, and I laughed at their hypocrisy and ignorance. I have always made myself believe, that the god I believe in, is only in my heart, but not the one that is in this world or out of this universe, not the one (jesus) who created everything. My god is the one who created my feelings, my mind, and guides my heart. Nonetheless, I still doubt all the time, and I don't believe anything that I try to make myself believe, and I don't believe even more those what other people make me believe. Since I don't believe in anything, what's the point of living? But what reason do I have to doubt those things, the every every thing that I used to firmly believe that god created? China is a mess now. The adults are doing the usual political things. I don't want to know the current affairs, because I dare not believe in anything. What I can do is that, deep inside my soul, I draw a circle around me, and using complete admiration and complete detestation, I stare and observe the world around me."

Hmm, I really haven't gone that far from 17 years ago.

OK, enough self-indulgence for now.

Yeah, I sort of got awakened 3 years ago but it only lasted a few hours I think. I was excited but scared, so I didn't stay there for very long. I told some people about it, but only you understood what happened to me. You said that you could help me go back there later, after my thesis. Something like that. So you are right to say that when I was ready, I found you and made it happen.

Did you already know a lot of the theory about the Path before your first awakening? Or you learned about the aspects of IT after your first experience? Did you study about IT intensively at some point? Or you just accumulate general knowledge and extract the ones that are relevant to the Search? Is Bruno a Master for you? Is Giovanni Pico della Mirandola a Master for you? They seems like the knowledge seeker type of "masters".

-- email excerpt to F.

email reply from master.

L45L-Subject: thank you for answers #2 Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:00:17 -0400

> I think the book title should be: "From Beijing to Being", or "From Beijing to Becoming".

"From Beijing to Being" is an excellent title. Impactful, mysterious, full of promises. The second is not that great, since it has little impact in its unfinished vagueness.

> I am putting some old diary into e-book and found quite good passage about my struggle to "compromise" the world. Even just four years ago I wrote: "Is there nothing eternal, nothing perfect, nothing ideal? I am the most contradictory person. On one hand I am pure and idealistic, and on the other hand I'm mature and wise. From this ugly, dirty, confusing world, I want to find something beautiful, pure, and orderly. Maybe myself is a mistake. But I do not want to change. I'd rather want to be a fool. I believe the existence of perfection."

:)

Well, isn't all this a good snapshot of the destiny and nature of a Seeker?

Btw, from a language point of view: "Maybe I am myself a mistake" ("a mistake of sorts" would be cuter) would be the proper form. But from a literary standpoint effect, I'd write it this way: "Maybe I myself am a mistake of sorts".

And its "I believe IN the..."

> Thank you for many answers about the drug-induced altered state. I trust your judgment. I think perhaps because you and I are both serious about the pursuit of knowledge, and you are so much wiser than me, I feel safe just to be a dwarf standing on your shoulder.

Gosh, it's nice to read, but I am no god. At least, no more a god than you are. ;)

And maybe I am not wiser really, just older? Or perhaps I *am* wiser, who knows? :) But I am not sure there is any merit in that.

In any event, any shoulder we can stand on, in all logic, should allow the one on the shoulder to see further than the one offering the shoulder, is that not so?

Of course, writing this is just playing on the virtues of the image itself, as if the map was the territory. But that wordplay seems to have some validity, and perhaps this should be the ultimate goal of anyone offering a shoulder to anyone.

> I like the way you describe the path of the wise men and women of old. It is so true that I "manifested a master" when I need one badly. It just occurred to me that both my "enlightenment" experiences happened when I was dating some arrogant, smart philosopher Ph.D.'s and I wanted more answers than they could provide, so I found *you*, and bingo, and enlightenment!

Well, not really. :) "Awakening" is what it was, according to the definition of "Enlightenment" being a permanent state, and Awakening the same thing, but of a transitory nature.

And are you saying you sort of got awakened three years ago as well?

> So now I know what I shall do for the next time. :) j/k of course. But I am so glad you are there and you are willing to point me in a direction.

Well, I was always there. It's just you who weren't ready to make use of me. While now you were. That's all. :)

This being said, in a way, we are just the production of our interactions with our Selves, our Universe, and with the other sentient beings that populate it.

Even if, at another level, all these things, we first chose, and summoned into being. Before they were in any way manifested. (Which is the theme of Thea Alexander's "2150 AD".)

And, at least if we look at what's happening at the "consensual reality" intersection of these personal Pocket Universes, maybe any of us isn't that great of a designer... ;)

Who knows?

> And it is such a comfort to know that there are many people who had gone before me.

Indeed, we are not original in any way. ;) I just wish there were more people wandering on the same pathway. If it was so, the world would assuredly be less messy a place...

> It must be a comfort to those before me that I am willing to follow their path.

If they somehow perceive it, I am sure they are proud of us. ;) However, perhaps we should also consider that maybe they actually want to write "Could do better", or something to that effect, on our Cosmic report cards... If I were any of them, I sure would feel the itch...

> And I hope I will find my way, and be a comfort to those who will come after me.

You sure are on your way already.

Being there for the next ones, I guess that also could be what differentiates the purely self-centered trip usually the result of chemical indulgences from the substance of what could be called a True Path.

> Right now I am relatively calm and have less questions. I still have questions, but not urgent.

Questions are just crutches too, in a way. At any rate, if nothing of what we do is truly of any importance, how could there be any urgency in any of the questions we might have?

> So my question is, is it normal for me to cruise for a while and enjoy my new being?

Why not? What makes *that* desire any less valid than any other?

However, just remember that in the end, the Teachings (as well as simple logic) show that all desires are just another form of Maya, and also, according to some, the begetters of all suffering.

> And when do I start my search again?

You never quit it. So you can't really start it again. It will always be there from now on. All what can happen is that Maya's veils enthrall your eyes for an instant...

> And what will that be?

If we talk about moments of intense search, the answer is whenever your Self will decide the time has come for the nest step. Don't worry, you will be the first to find out. ;)

> Will I ever outgrow you?

I certainly hope so! I share the view holding that the yardstick of a Master's ultimate success is when He can legitimately bow to the Disciple.

> When?

Now, *that* is another question. Now. Or never. Or anywhere in between. Who knows? :)

> Where did/do you find your masters?

First, there are relative Masters, and absolute Ones. From anyone who can play a localized and time-bound such function, to the Ones that transcend Time itself -- say, Avalokiteshvara. And anything in between.

When I was ready for them, I found them. Or they found me. Or I was found. Or IT in me was found. Remember the old saying: When the chela is ready, the Master appears.

> You probably sought/seek those more scholarly masters?

Of course I must confess I had/have such an inclination. ;) But again, no one can be perfect... :) So we might as well indulge in the inclinations of our hearts.

> It's nice of you to say that I might be smarter than you because I went through a lot of things in my recent experience. Or perhaps because I am Chinese and I live in the West, so I know a little something about various things, although not much. Or perhaps because you have been a good "master" for me and pointed me a more general way of Being.

I was just pinpointing a possibility. ;) One should always leave all possibilities open... :)

However, this also seems a good occasion to remind you that self-indulging in one's own greatness, and perhaps even more so, if it is real, or to some extent real, is also one of the most efficient traps the forces of our lives can set along our pathways...

Forces Of Our Lives, btw, acronyms to "fools"... Interesting, no? ;)

5/26/2004

I think the book title should be: "From Beijing to Being", or "From Beijing to Becoming".

I am putting some old diary into e-book and found quite good passage about my struggle to "compromise" the world. Even just four years ago I wrote: " Is there nothing eternal, nothing perfect, nothing ideal? I am the most contradictory person. On one hand I am pure and idealistic, and on the other hand I'm mature and wise. From this ugly, dirty, confusing world, I want to find something beautiful, pure, and orderly. Maybe myself is a mistake. But I do not want to change. I'd rather want to be a fool. I believe the existence of perfection."

Thank you for many answers about the drug-induced altered state. I trust your judgment. I think perhaps because you and I are both serious about the pursuit of knowledge, and you are so much wiser than me, I feel safe just to be a dwarf standing on your shoulder.

I like the way you describe the path of the wise men and women of old. It is so true that I "manifested a master" when I need one badly. It just occurred to me that both my "enlightenment" experiences happened when I was dating some arrogant, smart philosopher Ph.D.'s and I wanted more answers than they could provide, so I found *you*, and bingo, an enlightenment! So now I know what I shall do for the next time. :) j/k of course. But I am so glad you are there and you are willing to point me in a direction.

And it is such a comfort to know that there are many people who had gone before me. It must be a comfort to those before me that I am willing to follow their path. And I hope I will find my way, and be a comfort to those who will come after me.

Right now I am relatively calm and have less questions. I still have questions, but not urgent. I feel I am a goddess these days. I enjoy learning about myself, and I enjoy being a goddess and being worshipped as one (yes). So my question is, is it normal for me to cruise for a while and enjoy my new being? And when do I start my search again? And what will that be? Will I ever outgrow you? When? Where did/do you find your masters? You probably sought/seek those more scholarly masters?

(Yes, I understand and I know that we are all one--me, you, them, Buddha, the pope, even bush. And I feel perfectly find that we are all part of my universe. And I am no different from a computer, a rock, a star. I know it when I was THERE, and now I just remember it.)

It's nice of you to say that I might be smarter than you because I went through a lot of things in my recent experience. Or perhaps because I am Chinese and I live in the West, so I know a little something about various of things, although not much. Or perhaps because you have been a good "master" for me and pointed me a more general way of Being.

-- email excerpt to F.

Part Two of The Answers to Ah-San Collected Works on Bringing Questions to the Masters.

> I think I am not like most other people,

Hmm… Where did you get that idea from? ;)

J/k…

> and I am strange in certain ways.

Again, you can't judge someone like you using the same yardstick used for average people. So how could you be anything *but* "strange", if the reference to normalcy used is "Joe Sixpack", or even "the girl next door"? Think of it!

> D says that I am not as strange as I think. He says that people in the 60s did a lot of the stuff I am beginning to do now.

True. But that was a time of liberation and questioning. I did not last long. The powers that be got rid of a pesky President and his brother, both influenced by such ideas, put Tim Leary in jail for 30 years (official reason: His daughter had transported 11 grams of weed over the border), made acid illegal, sent unruly kids to have some serious fun in South-East Asia, perfected media control, and got things pretty much in control. So questioning from being relatively common started becoming a rarity.

> F suspected that I took acid and had a trip. S thought I ate something strange. But all I did was waking up one morning and finding myself There.

This indeed could have been the shortcut to somewhat similar experiences. However, you are the best proof that no drugs are needed to *get There*. There is nothing wrong with them at all -- except that they are illegal: Since the use of mind-altering substances puts us even more under the sway of our slavemasters, it is best to be avoided. Otherwise, they’d be a path like another, allowing to shake the belief in an absolutely solid and stolid physical “reality”.

Actually, studying Physics, at some level, could easily have the same effect than psychotropic substances, since contemporary physics definitely questions lots of common assumptions…

> It seems that they (growing up in the 60s) have seen people like me before, or they have done similar things themselves in the past, and they know what they are talking about.

Frankly, I don’t think most of them really have.

What they did see (or did themselves) is have the somewhat similar experiences one gets when using psychotropic triggers. So they automatically used the reference frames they were familiar with, and judged the process they saw you undergo from *that* point of view. Which, besides being a “natural” thing to do, also had the advantage to allow them to avoid contemplating a possibly very, very disturbing concept: The idea that someone else, and in addition, someone *they* know might actually have experienced the genuine article. Something that very possibly they never ever got close to themselves… Remember: No one becomes Prophet in his own village…

However, this is absolutely not the path you took. The path you took was similar to the one the Wise Men and Women of old took: They used their brain to look at the world, and slowly realized that something is amiss and wrong with the pictures they got. Then, when ready, they manifested a “Master” to whom they talked. In turn, that "Master", if they appeared genuine Seekers, used one trick or another to point them in the right direction. What happens after that is that, with a little bit of luck or lots of efforts, or both, "IT" happens. Nothing original in the process, really. It has happened over and over, over the ages.

> I know I am very naive and ignorant of what people do with drugs (I have never tried any, and not particularly interested in it). But, if that drug induced ecstasy is the type of things that I will end up with (without drug use), or if in the eyes of an onlooker I am only seeking that kind of "altered state", then something is wrong with my pursuit somewhere.

Nono. You are going back to your old error, judging the world and your own experience through the eyes of the onlookers, and by the yardsticks they provide. It’s not the way it works.

The only onlookers who know more than you do are the Awakened ones. Once you yourself are Awakened, you can still use “colleagues” as “direction pointers”, or even as crutches, if you wish, and *that* is perfectly legitimate. But they themselves no more really “know” that much more than you do yourself. As for the “average person” type of onlooker, they no more have any claims left to any genuine rights to be normative about *your* experiences.

Think of it: How could they? Since when do the blind have any claim to be the leaders of one-eyed people?

[On the other hand, also remember that looking at “me” vs “them” is just another trick of Maya. Ultimately, you, me, them, Buddha, the Pope and even Saddam and Dubya, we are all one. (I know it can be hard to believe, when you push it *that* far… ;) But it’s nonetheless true. Or, if you prefer, be as proud as makes you *feel really good* about all you accomplished, but always remember that ultimately, a worm or a star, there is no difference.

The Romans in their wisdom had the slave holding the Triumph crown over their new Imperator’s head whisper or yell in the ears of the same to remember the Tarpeian Rock [a place of opprobrium where State-ordered executions were held by pushing the condemned down to their death], as he paraded through to the acclaim of the populace. The Awakened Seeker must learn to be both Imperator and slave, and to follow the Triumphal Way as they are accepting the Tarpeian Rock for their own Ego.

In other words, what *you* got was the genuine experience. What your friends most probably got was the drug-induced ersatz experience. So, if anyone is "wrong" in this matter, it's not you.

Except that personally, I don't think anyone is wrong here. It does not matter how one gets *There*, as long as There you get. Except that they seem a bit arrogant in judging *your* experience by *their* yardsticks. Even if honestly, yes, there are similarities. But how do they know how you got there? Who knows, if not your Self?

> And what happened to those people from the 60s and 70s? Where did they end up to? Did anything go wrong with them and what?

What happened with them? Easy, they are still here They just happen to start getting old. And grouchy. :)

The successful ones are "important" people. Like faculty deans, cabinet members, well-known writers, etc. The middle ranks are just G, and D, and F (and me :) And those who used a bit too much of the heavy fuels, or ate too much junk, are already dead, because too much of a good thing is quite taxing for the body. Particularly if, in fact, it's not that good a thing.

> Are most of the New Age people trying to reproduce the 60s trend in a different style?

Some might, since it was the trendy thing to do, at some point in time. And will certainly be so again. But most are simply pursuing their own paths, which to some extent replicates that of mom and dad. And actually many of the "New-Age" people are simply the same "flower children" of the 60's, but with graying hair on their heads. Some age-old wisdom told us: "There is never anything new under the sun". Indeed.

> OK, I know that each person does what works for them, and I cannot judge the validity of anyone's search.

Words of Wisdom. Actually, you can, as long as you don't take any of your judgments as having any more importance than theirs. ;) (And this, by the way, is *as valid* for my own judgments, as it is for any others!)

> D asked me, "What branch of this is your master (you, F) teaching? What's the name of it?" I believe your teaching has no name (or else I would not want to learn from you, since I don't want to subscribe to any specific branch, not yet).

You got it perfectly right! ;)

And ah! It feels soooo good to be the Master. ;)

Sure, I could put nice labels on it, and have treatises written on the Great Insights of the MahaGuru’s thought (or write them myself, to make sure the hagiographer got it right... :). Hey, thinking of it, I could even put that in a “Little Green Book”, and have the masses quote it in preparation for their Great (spiritual) Leap Forward.

> It is, and should be, more general than any of the spirituality search that can be named. Am I right about this?

Indeed. It’s the spiritual counterpart of the way of the “generalist”.

> I admit that in the course of my 5-day trip, I went through many branches of religious, philosophical and scientific teachings (as much as I can name them), so I was able to name things in terms of New Age, Christianity, Buddhism/Zen, Taoism, science and philosophy, etc. So I believe, or I think I believe, that I had reached something truly general, or as general as my limited experience and mind could comprehend.

You might in fact be smarter than me, because it seems that you went through all this a bit quicker than I did. ;)

> I hope this is true, that I am learning something that can truly satisfy a earnest seeker (I hope I can call myself a serious seeker).

It seems to me that you are... ;)

> Perhaps in the end I will find myself going down one particular path, but that would be when I stop questioning and find contentment.

You should follow the inclinations of your heart. However, in general, be twice as questioning about, and demanding of, "named" paths. Or you might way too soon end waiting for the Second Coming, or even start talking in tongues with the Lord himself. :)

Next installment in

"Part Three of The Answers to Ah-San Collected Works on Bringing Questions to the Masters." Stay tuned! ;)

5/25/2004

Every morning before I wake up, I allow myself dream about Paradise for a while. In my dreams, I remember how it was like to be completely free and happy. I even try to plan my day in my dreams, so after I wake up, I will have something planned in case I don't know what I want to do.

The book by Madhu arrived yesterday. It does look very good and I shall read carefully it once I finish Eco (although I should have learned some Latin first).

The recent enlightenment experience still has good effects on me. The other evening I had a date, and I enjoyed being beautiful. I thought and I felt, it was just the universe who was beautiful through me, so I must be as pure as I could, to experience the beauty of the universe. So I did and it was wonderful.

This is as poetic as I can put it. :)

-- email to F.

email excerpt from F.

Subject: putting intuition into words Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 11:39:18 -0400

> There's a difference between being able to understand the theory behind General Systems (and all related areas) in an intuitive way, and being able to realize it in a tangible way in a particular subject. And then, being able to formulate it in words is also different from the two. I believe I have the intuition, while most people working in Complexity know how to apply the theory in various disciplines, and they can formulate the work in math terms. So, for me, it is a long way to produce a thesis. My mind, when it is free, enjoys the freedom in literature and music. It is not disciplined in scientific reasoning. Eve! n writing this paragraph is very difficult for me.

Oh, but I never suggested that you should follow *their* path, and do a thesis on that. At any rate and again, a purely mathematic view of the world is by definition a reductionist view of the world. You can do better.

> I tried to write something without "to be" and it is impossible, because I actually *love* the vagueness that comes with this verb and other imprecise words. Perhaps I am Chinese, and Chinese language is very vague--we don't even have grammar. I use language as an artistic _expression, not as a set of scientific symbols. Hmm, maybe this is one reason why modern science and technology have to come from the West.

Yes, one of them. The other is the Son of Heaven's edict of the early 15th century (1431? 1433? I don't remember) that withdrew China from the colonial conquest of the world, and redirected its (her?) energy towards maintaining the internal status quo. And of course there are other reasons too. But that's a *looong* subject to tackle.

However, I believe that the key to superior, holistic knowledge might precisely be the fuzziness that comes with ideogramic (ideogrammatic?) writing, and with the corresponding patterns of thinking. One of the most original things I ever invented, and for which I made a patent application back in 1981, was the concept of an universal language that would be both universal and comprehensible by all, and yet, the locutor's own natural language. It was Chinese, the language (seen through the prism of Leibnitz's mind) that provided the clue for it, and of course, computers that made it possible. It never went anywhere since it would take many millions to implement, but it's quite an interesting concept.

If you use your "Chinese beingness", Taoist "philosophy", and the input of Western science, about which you necessarily have some inkling ;), you will get to whole new mountains of insights.

> I want to learn some Latin. Seems like something very useful.

I always found my very limited knowledge of Latin quite useful indeed.

5/24/2004

Fortune Cookie:
Your heart is pure, and your mind clear and soul devout.

email excerpt from F.

Well, I have met quite smart people who don't like me that much, or at all. But as the Latins, or rather the Middle-Age scholastics, used to say: "De gustibus coloribusque non est disputandum" "It's senseless to discuss about (preferences) in colors and tastes".
Just interact with the people who like you, or at least don't dislike you. And don't take their likes or dislikes any more seriously than your own. And rather, less.

> I heard the word and concept of "flow" 6 years ago on a book-on-tapes (don't remember which one) and I could not relate that word to anything I knew, and was extremely puzzled and jealous. These last few days I've been thinking, maybe when one is in "flow", one is in touch with "being"?

It appears so to me.
"Fluidity" always appeared as a supreme quality to me. The Romans had all sorts of "gods" and "goddesses" or "archetypes" of that sort on the reverse of their coins, such as, let's say, "Pr! ovidentia Deorum", "the Foresight of the Gods". They also had great titles, the one I liked most was always "Soli Invicto Comiti", i.e., "(To the) Companion of the Never-Vanquished Sun"
I had a great collection of them, when I was well-off, and had created a few like figures for my own use. "Fluiditas Deorum" was one of them: "The Fluidity of the Gods", which I hoped would always surf the waves of Time by my side. Some have their "Private Idahos", I guess I had my "Private Holy Empire". All the same!
In any event, Fluiditas Deorum is a great minor Goddess... If you want to adopt her, feel free! ;)

> So I take it that you are enlightened? And you stay there the whole time?

I wish! ;)
I wouldn't say so. I sure had moments of awakening, but to be there all the time, although possible in theory, does not seem something very accessible or maintanable in practice. I think the secret is simply to live your life as if you were Enlightened, knowing you are not.
The final moment of Enlightenment is also the final moment of our (material) lives, I think. The moment when we merge with Infinity, out there. I am in no hurry! ;)

5/22/2004

email reply from F.

> After my long list of questions, you send me a long list of reading materials. We are so efficient at keeping each other busy with useless stuff!

Well, useless, it depends. :) Of no importance, at a philosophical level, does not mean useless for us, in our lives. Those are two different concepts.
Me, it makes me write stuff that could be used for a book, or at least makes me formally express thoughts on a given subject, that might be of some value to others. Like... to you. :)
As for you, the list is no more useless than a list of materials related to studying for a Ph.D. in Physics, since if you studied all that in details, and explored forward, you'd have all the requisite knowledge for a degree in Epistemology. On the other hand, it is indeed exactly as useless.
Remember: Value is in the eye of the beholder. Reread the quotes of M. Csikszentmikalyi, in my last letter. ;)

> One quick question for now: What is the relationship between my recent "awakening" experience, and my "generalist" ability?

I personally think they are powerfully linked. But then, that's just an opinion.

> Are all the people who are enlightened able to understand "generalist" theory? And are "generalists" all enlightened, or likely to be enlightened?

They possess "something" that might indeed be of help, or perhaps predispose them to go in that direction. Maybe. If they feel like it.

> Douglas Hofstadter is a generalist, right?

He certainly is. Besides being a Professor of Computer Science, he is also Adjunct Professor for History (History is a major component of a generalist approach) and of "the Philosophuy of Science", which is none other than, according to Webster, "Epistemology".

> Is he enlightened?

I will ask him. ;) I don't know, but he sure seems to have insights the average man does not have.

> He writes so well! His book is such a universe of its own.

Writing well is good. However, it does not guarantee full access to Wisdom. Sophists and (literary) con men write better than we do, yet, no one would think of them as enlightened.

> For me, I think it was that morning when I read your email to Madhu and Mark about epistemology, and after a few days of learning "wisdom" from you, that triggered my recent experience.

The idea that it might made me write it. See, "no importance" is different from "useless". ;)

> I would like to note that the "scientific" knowledge makes the "spiritual" experience fuller and more overwhelmingly captivating, and the "spiritual" experience makes the "scientific" knowledge more grounded (so we know where all this knowledge comes from, or rather, where every branch of knowledge comes from, or where everything comes from).

This is just an illustration of the interconnectedness of all thing. And it further answers your question here above. Finally, this brings us back to the man I'd consider the founder of General Epistemology, C.L. von Bertalanffy.
On the following site:
http://www.psy.pdx.edu/PsiCafe/KeyTheorists/vonBertalanffy.htm they say: "(...) interested in the broadest implications of his conception, (he) went beyond biology to consider psychological, social and historical levels of organization. He conceived of a general theory capab! le of elaborating principles and models that were applicable to all systems, whatever the nature of their parts and the level of their organization" and "He used these principles to explore a host of scientific and philosophical issues, including a humanistic conception of human nature that opposed the mechanistic robot conception of behaviourists and cyberneticists as failing to do justice to the spontaneous self-motivated activity of mind and body; a philosophy of mind and culture that distinguished human from animal nature in terms of the ability to use symbols; and the seeds of a new philosophy of history that revived valid components of Spengler's and Toynbee's theories in a perspective that saw civilizations themselves as systems."
And the Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, quoted here
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/SYSTHEOR.html says: "Bertalanffy was both reacting against reductionism, and attempting to revive ! the unity of science. He emphasized that real systems are open to, and interact with, their environments; and that they can acquire qualitatively new properties through emergence, resulting in continual evolution. Rather than reducing an entity (e.g. the human body) to the properties of its parts or elements (e.g. organs or cells), systems theory focuses on the arrangement of and relations between the parts which connect them into a whole (cf. holism). This particular organization determines a system, which is independent of the concrete substance of the elements (e.g. particles, cells, transistors, people, etc). Thus, the same concepts and principles of organization underlie the different disciplines (physics, biology, technology, sociology, etc.), providing a basis for their unification."
Now you know what a generalist is, as I see it. ;) And it's not even me saying it. :)
As for Hofstadter, just from his professoral titles, he obviously followed CLvB in that pathway. From the way he writes, and what he writes, it is extremely probable that he is "awakened", and very possibly "enlightened".

> One example: today I was driving in the woods and saw a beautiful patch of yellow flowers. I appreciate flowers and the beauty of nature, like everyone else. But this time I notice how natural it is for us to appreciate beautiful things -- nature is part of us and we are part of nature, and we are truly one in essence. I know this now from the deepest place within my heart (my being), without any doubt, not with impulsive or blind love. So I was able to love the flowers with so much more passion than before.

I think you just described one of the natural effects of Awakening in a simple, fluent and clear manner.

> This passionate love only happens when I can get back in touch with "being" and feel its existence. When I am not in touch with "being", which is most of the time now (since I am a novice), I can only use my newly gained wisdom/insight to guide/convince myself, and this is not too bad although could be better.

This is the difference between being awakened and being enlightened. ;)

> Also, this applies to everything, not just the love of beautiful flowers. Another example I thought about at the time was the subject of morality, but right now I am just thinking and not "being", so the Truth does not flow out me. Yes, I am trying to use my memory and reasoning to retrieve Truth, and how limited the mind is!!

Be patient, it's coming. ;) Remember that, from Korzybski's point of view, also very relevant here, as human beings immersed in the here and now, we are essentially "time-binding" creatures.

> Every time I write to you, I learn something more.

See, it's not that "useless". Uselessness and "no importance" are vastly different things: For example, nothing of what I do is of any importance. Yet, very little of it (albeit a lot too much ;) is useless.
Anyway, what would be the sense of writing to me, if that was not the case? ;)

I had an observation today about the leftover effect of my "enlightenment" experience (rephrase from my email to F.)

The "scientific" knowledge makes the "spiritual" experience fuller and more overwhelmingly captivating, and the "spiritual" experience makes the "scientific" knowledge more grounded (so I know where all this knowledge comes from, or rather, where every branch of knowledge comes from, or where everything comes from). One example: today I was driving in the woods and saw a beautiful patch of yellow flowers. I generally appreciate flowers and the beauty of nature, like everyone else. But this time I noticed how natural it is for us to appreciate beautiful things--nature is part of us and we are part of nature, and we are truly one in essence. Now I know this, without any doubt, from the deepest place within my heart (my being), not from impulsive or blind love. Therefore I was able to love the flowers with so much more passion and joy than before. However, this passionate love only happens when I can get back in touch with "being" and feel its existence. When I am not in touch with "being", which is most of the time now, I can only use my newly gained wisdom/insight to guide/convince myself. This also applies to everything, not just the love of beautiful flowers. Another example I thought about at the time was the subject of morality, but right now I am just *thinking* and not "being", so the Truth does not flow out me. Yes, I am trying to use my memory and reasoning to retrieve Truth, and how limited the mind is!!

One quick question for now: What is the relationship between my recent "awakening" experience, and my "generalist" ability? Are all the people who are enlightened able to understand "generalist" theory? And are "generalists" all enlightened, or likely to be enlightened? Douglas Hofstadter is a generalist, right? Is he enlightened? He writes so well! His book is such a universe of its own. For me, I think it was that morning when I read your email to Madhu and Mark about epistemology, and after a few days of learning "wisdom" from you, that triggered my recent experience. I would like to note that the "scientific" knowledge makes the "spiritual" experience fuller and more overwhelmingly captivating, and the "spiritual" experience makes the "scientific" knowledge more grounded (so we know where all this knowledge comes from, or rather, where every branch of knowledge comes from, or where everything comes from).

One example: today I was driving in the woods and saw a beautiful patch of yellow flowers. I appreciate flowers and the beauty of nature, like everyone else. But this time I notice how natural it is for us to appreciate beautiful things--nature is part of us and we are part of nature, and we are truly one in essence. I know this now from the deepest place within my heart (my being), without any doubt, not with impulsive or blind love. So I was able to love the flowers with so much more passion than before.

This passionate love only happens when I can get back in touch with "being" and feel its existence. When I am not in touch with "being", which is most of the time now (since I am a novice), I can only use my newly gained wisdom/insight to guide/convince myself, and this is not too bad although could be better.

Also, this applies to everything, not just the love of beautiful flowers. Another example I thought about at the time was the subject of morality, but right now I am just thinking and not "being", so the Truth does not flow out me. Yes, I am trying to use my memory and reasoning to retrieve Truth, and how limited the mind is!!

Every time I write to you, I learn something more.

> An objective evaluation of the true importance of all we think, believe and do is indeed the key to complete freedom. J

This statement I will need some contemplating. What is this "J" at the end of the sentence?

-- email excerpt to master.

email reply from master:

Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 10:34:48 -0400 Subject: you are quick with that one

> I just counted the number of questions I had from yesterday. About 84 of them. Are you still working on the rest of them? :)

I did not count them, but it sure felt like 84 questions. And sure, I will answer all of them. In time. ;)

Today I am going to concentrate on this one, which was worth some attention:

> Just some morning thoughts. I really enjoy it when I can think a lot and fast. Makes me feel alive and powerful.

That's the problem with us thinkers. We enjoy the thinking more than the doing, and often no doing is done.

Subject: what do you think of this? (read me first) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:03:08 -0400

> Today I feel very content. I am taking my own advice, "nothing is of any importance", so everything seems to smooth and easy. I feel completely fine. I am not eager to get more answers. I don't even seem to have any questions that I want to ask.

> Then, the question is, is this the end of the journey of me as a seeker?

Oh no! Just the beginning of Wisdom! ;)

> Nothing is of any importance. Now I understand this statement perfectly well. I even understand that, I can take something or myself or seeking seriously if it pleases me; and I can continue to seek or I can stop right here, and there is no real importance either way.

An objective evaluation of the true importance of all we think, believe and do is indeed the key to complete freedom. J

> I am completely free!

See! ;)

> I am still curious to see how some of my long list of 80 some questions answered. Or maybe tomorrow I won't be curious. And I don't care!

That's the "satisfaction makes him come back" effect, about the proverbial cat, I guess. ;)

> What's next?

cHOP WOOD, CARRY WATER. ;)

Hmm, accidental caps, but it deserves capitalization anyway. Otherwise, hey, just write back and forth...nce this is all we can do back and forth for the time being. :(

Subject: Hmmm, let me answer myself Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 15:21:23 -0400

>> Then, the question is, is this the end of the journey of me as a seeker?

> This is not the end. I still want more answers, but I am not desperate.


See. :)

>> What's next?

> Perhaps the next step is, how to do it? How to be myself? Who am I? How to find that out? HOW TO BE?


The answer to that is easy: Follow the true inclinations of your heart.

> One day I shall be perfectly calm and burning.

Indeed, since that is one of the by-products of advancing Wisdom.

5/21/2004

Fortune Cookie:
Happier days are definitely ahead for you, struggle has ended.

Fortune Cookie:
You are of double character: An active socialite and a serious thinker.

what do you think of this? (read me first)

Today I feel very content. I am taking my own advice, "nothing is of any importance", so everything seems so smooth and easy. I feel completely fine. I am not eager to get more answers. I don't even seem to have any questions that I want to ask.

Then, the question is, is this the end of the journey of me as a seeker?

Nothing is of any importance. Now I understand this statement perfectly well. I even understand that, I can take something or myself or seeking seriously if it pleases me; and I can continue to seek or I can stop right here, and there is no real importance either way.

I am completely free!

I am still curious to see how some of my long list of 80 some questions answered. Or maybe tomorrow I won't be curious. And I don't care!

What's next?

-- email excerpt to master.

两次梦醒

那天我一觉醒来,就“醒来”了。好奇怪啊。也没喝酒没吸麻没写字没音乐没散步没啥的。也不算high,但整整五天都在一个奇妙的世界,好像在到处走,到处看,遇到很多古人,只觉得终于清醒了。到了第五天忽然失望了,很郁闷。第六天又“醒”过来,觉得是做了场大梦。(自称 Master 的朋友说,庄子也跟蝴蝶梦来梦去过的。)醒来后,心里酸溜溜的,觉得完全被击败了,因为我终于明白了这个主题:人说天堂是神话是幻影,天知道人生是虚幻,但人与天的斗争,人永远无法胜利;越强的人,越不肯服输,也就越痛苦;到了什么时候,人能认了,与天合好合一了,才是赢,才是快乐,才能最终休息。

随便瞎说说。世界上没有什么大不了的事儿,追索也一样,学问也一样,跟天斗跟人斗也一样,高兴就去做呗。

谢谢这里的各位好朋友。

(于玛雅咖啡店)

I am rested. The night before I had a dream. In my dream I was back to Paradise. It was nice. I was able to enjoy whatever I was doing. So I stayed in my dream, hoping to remember how it was so I could act like that when I woke up. I slept 10 hours and then I woke up, but I was still out. But I did not feel disillusioned or bitter or defeated anymore. I felt normal. I was back to myself, completely. I decided to rest. So what did I do when I was resting? I fabricated a set of 80 something questionsn to the master. Where did all the questions come from, after I claimed to have *all* the answers? Haha! I am not only getting back to be myself, I have gone back to myself
years back when I started accumulating questions. Would be very interesting to see if the master can provide satisfying answers, the master who claims to have all the answers.

After the questions, I was exhausted again. Rested again, and today I am *really* back to be myself. Hmm, who am myself?

Actually, I did not fall this time. I was just disillusioned and woke up. I woke up twice--once I woke up and found myself God and everything else was a dream, and then I woke up again and found I just had a dream.

I have had many companions in the past (I didn't know I was traveling though, but now I remember I was, and had companions too), but sooner or later people went their own way and I'm left alone. I just took a big trip, and it is nice that when I come back, you are here to listen, and to believe me. Otherwise the journey would be so difficult! Right now I don't know where I am going, but I know I am going, my way. As my own new gained wisdom tells me, nothing is of any importance, even the search should be taken lightly. I think it's a good advice, and I will take it.

-- email excerpt to JA.

Thank you for starting to chip away my questions. So many of them from yesterday. Boy, I was serious! This morning I woke up, and thought, nothing is of any importance, even the answers from master. Haha!

Nothing is of any importance. So today I shall do what I enjoy.

-- email excerpt to master.

email reply from master.

Wow!

Now that one, I will have to answer in installments. It feels like a book assignment. :)
Let's begin with a tiny piece. :)

45F1 - Part One of The Answers to Ah-San Collected Works on Bringing Questions to the Masters.

> I have so many questions! I don't even know where to begin! It seems that it is just as difficult to ask questions as to know the answers.

Didn't I tell you the answers are easy, it's the questions that are hard. ;)
Actually, the very basis of seeking (anything) is the ability to question.
Let me quote some guy here, who seems to have got it on this point: "Inquisitiveness & Radical Honesty -- Develop the ability to question everything. Bring every motive and avoidance of reality to the light of truth in a radically honest way. Learn to face life with open arms and open eyes. This will rapidly change your perception of the world and yourself. Deep contemplative inquiry allows us to discover and dismantle our story [i.e., personal history] and our programs or patterns. Questioning works especially well on belief systems that we have adopted through our cultural & social conditioning."

> I am so glad that answering questions is your line of business, as you claim.

Perhaps making books out of it will even pay the rent. Someday... ;)

> I only hope my questions are not too naive and a waste of your time, and your answers will lead not only to more questions but also a state where questions and answers truly merge into one.

As I see it, no genuine question can be too naive. See the quote above. ;)

> So, where to begin?

Good question! ;)

> Me. I am truly a novice in this pursuit. I was not even aware I was on any path.

Some are of the opinions that in a way, this could be the mark of the true Seeker. :)

> I was just going my way in the dark, doing my own "seeking" and did not know there could be any directions that I wanted to trust in my going. I questions everything and never want to subscribe to anyone's teaching or wisdom.

Now, *that* is the mark of Wisdom. ;) Any Any teaching frozen or gelified by the twin onslaught of time and respectability becomes questionable. As Jefferson said, even in politics we'd need another Revolution every 20 years or so. Chairman Mao certainly agreed, although his revolutions were not always best-chosen.

> True, I have very low self-esteem and I seek approval among even the least learned men, and I tend to swing and shift, violently.

Laugh about it, and ignore that little voice when it talks. Just pretend you listen The same way children pretend to listen to their parents, yet usually do what they want. ;)

> But I know deep down inside I have never yielded. And to that I am proud of myself. I know I am brave, and not afraid of myself. I have never found enough answers that can satisfy all me, and I am not content with the reality in saying, "I shall never find all
the answers so I will stop here."


Isn't that the mark of the genuine Seeker?

> The fact that I still seek *your* wisdom shows that somehow I feel that you have the answers closest to what might satisfy me. So even though I felt bitter and disillusioned, I go back to you. And, yes, I am curious too.

Curiosity is the doom of the cat. ;) A good thing cats have 9 lives. :)
As for my wisdom, I am just parotting what greater men once found to be true, and which myself I found valuable or useful.

And this will be the end of Part One of The Answers to Ah-San Collected Works on Bringing Questions to the Masters. ;)

5/20/2004

I have so many questions! I don't even know where to begin! It seems that it is just as difficult to ask questions as to know the answers. I am so glad that answering questions is your line of business, as you claim. I only hope my questions are not too naive and a waste of your time, and your answers will lead not only to more questions but also a state where questions and answers truly merge into one.

So, where to begin?

-- email excerpt to master.

I wrote a super long email to master today. I don't know how long it will take him to answer all my questions--I have at least 100 questions in that email. Hmmm, let's see if I can ever find a way to contentment. See, you are content in yourself, and you believe you can find answers for yourself. I am not satisfied. Maybe low self-esteem? Or maybe I can't rest until I find answers I want. Apparently I have this thirst for wisdom that only master can provide, at least now. Maybe soon I will want to move on to other things. But I know what I am doing and I want to go down this path myself, no matter how other people warn me against it. But what path? I don't know, and I am going to find out. Maybe I will make a fool out of myself. But, hey, I only live once. F says, 'curiosity kills the cat, but satisfaction brings him back".

-- email excerpt to Rong.

Once upon a time, I, Chuang Chou, dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was Chou. Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man.

email reply from master:

> I think/feel/know that I am getting a little wiser now, after this trip to Paradise. Illusion or not, Paradise is nice, and I can add it to my list of places I've been to.

I don't think that Paradise is an illusion. It's more the Hell we inhabit that is. ;) Paradise is just Being. True Reality.

> F got really upset when I was telling him about my recent experience. His comment was, "this is all extremely boring".

> It was a blow.


As it should be. Frankly, I don't see how running away like that can be given any positive interpretation. But then, it's only me talking.

> G said to me last week that he found the New Age people seeking enlightenment "very boring" and "dead". I would not want to be boring and dead.

Well, about all this, don't quote me officially on this since any of them could take it as a personal attack, which it is not, but I have a strong feeling that anyone who tells you that the quest for enlightenment is boring, or even more so runs away if you share you own experience about it, might have a bit of a problem. To the very least, I have a feeling they might be a bit jealous, to begin with. Perhaps unable to get there themselves... :) Now, again, this is just me, talking.

This being said, G might actually be factually right in many cases. Many of these people are more playing at it or with it, rather than being thoroughly sincere in their quest. It's not that they are insincere per se; it is more that this in a way too alien for them to be totally truthful with themselves. And often, they are also camouflaged puritans. The sort that sees a beer like the bottled incarnation of sin, and sex as something akin to capital crime. (One can't help notice that it is OK for kids to watch a thousand murders a day on TV, after all, they need some training for the future; but if by chance some singer shows some tit for 2.5 seconds, then it's a national scandal, with calls for Congress! to legislate on such unacceptable attempts to pervert the youth...)

Needless to say, as I see it, and in this I am certainly replicating the views of my own Masters, such people have little chance to ever get close to an enlightened state with Life-denying attitudes. And at any rate it indeed does not make them overly exciting to be around with.

As for some men of wisdom you may know, the Younger Master once said: "Great wisdom is generous; petty wisdom, contentious. Great speech is impassioned; small speech, cantankerous". Or something to that effect. ;)

> Although I know it is all what I feel that counts, but I care deeply the opinions of the people I care about too. And I want to be interesting and lively to my friends.

It's a commendable attitude, but not the way you do it. Your way, I fear, is rather a reflection of a self-esteem that is not always the greatest.

Actually, about this, let me quote here one of my Masters, who was himself quoting his own Master, who, in turn, I am sure, was just repeating what had survived from the Ancient Ones. He was saying something like this: "The average person seeks certainty in the eyes of the onlooker, and calls that self-confidence. The Noble One seeks impeccability in his own eyes, and calls that humbleness. The average person is hooked to their fellow men, the Noble One is hooked only to Infinity."

You are in the process of shifting. Don't be surprised if you found out that the further you shift, the less you are going to be sensitive to what other people think of you.

Actually, let me put that quote in its own context. My Master was in essence saying this:

When confronted with issues such as the ones we are talking about, the True One or Noble One (der Edle Mensch, i.e., "The Noble Human" -- let's say "the True Human", a Human worth that name, a "True One") acknowledges his or her pain, but doesn't indulge in it.

The mood of the True One entering into the unknown is not one of sadness or fear; to the contrary, it is one of joyfulness and awe, as you are feeling humbled by your great fortune: Confident that their spirit is impeccable, and above all, fully aware of its efficiency, a True One's joyfulness comes from having accepted his or her own fate, and from having truthfully assessed what lies ahead.

The basic difference between an ordinary human and the True One is that the Noble One takes everything as a challenge offered by Life itself, as it is at play with us, while the ordinary one takes everything as a blessing, or as a curse.

The self-confidence of the Noble One is not the self-confidence of the average person: The average person seeks certainty in the eyes of the onlooker, and calls that self-confidence. The Noble One seeks impeccability in his own eyes, and calls that humbleness. The average person is hooked to their fellow men, while the True One is hooked only to Infinity.

He also said that the only freedom the Noble One has is to behave impeccably. Not only is impeccability freedom; it is the only way for us to straighten out and harness our human form. He added that when one has nothing more to lose, that is when one can finally become courageous: We can only remain pusillanimous as long as there is something we can still attach ourselves to. But once we shed the human form, there is nothing left to cling to. Then the only thing left is Freedom, and Infinity.

Now, if you felt that contemplating such words is like contemplating the shining facets of a gem glistening in the sun of a glorious dawn, a fascinating gem that could very possibly act as a doorway to Infinity, feel free to feel that way: I sure do as well.

Hmm... "The Doorway to Infinity". Now, wouldn't that be a great title for a book? I hope no one has already thought of it, although it seems too good to have escaped the collective mind of the many who preceded us. ;)

Anyway, about books, let's make a deal: You provide the questions. I provide the answers. And we equally share the royalties. ;)

Now, don't be surprised if, in the end, you saw the confines of questions and answers blurring and fade, as well as the difference between the one who provides the questions, and the one who provides the answers...

> So, I will put a stop for this enlightenment subject, at least for now.

Just remember that there are lots of people out there for whom this is *not* a boring subject. People who struggle with their own identity, and with their understanding of the nature of consensual reality and of what's beyond. And that contemplating other people's pathways, and experiences, is perhaps the only input that might help them go forward...

> It seems like there are only two sides, or two actions -- either you on this side or do this, or you are on that side and do that. When you are God, you know man is an illusion. When you are a man, you think God is an illusion. Enlightenment is also a personal choice, an experience one choose to go through. Right now I am on the side of man, and I am lucid with all human confusions. When I was God I was lucid with all God's wisdom.

I think "lucid with" is too Chinese. "Aware of" or "conscious of" is what you'd want to say in a book. :) But besides that, you say it as it is.

This reminds me of that classic story reported by the Younger Master, of a man who fell asleep under a tree, dreaming he was a butterfly. And who, as he was waking up, was wondering if he was a man who had just dreamt he was a butterfly, or if he was a butterfly, just dreaming he was a man.

> I'm back to where I started, with new insights to spiritual things.

The Ancients saw History as circular. Maybe this is why. ;)

> I can probably use the enlightened state as a tool when I want to feel exalted in order to create.

Isn't that an excellent use for IT?

> Strangely enough, all your advices are still good for all practical purposes.

Well, we I explored these things, I noticed that the more genuine a Master or possible Master was, the more both detached *and* down to earth he also seemed to be. If he wasn't that practical, he usually wasn't that spiritually valid either -- if we call any of this "spirituality", an ambiguous word I am not totally sure I can fully subscribe to.

This is what I came to verbalize as the "chop wood, carry water" attitude. It impressed me as one of the element allowing us as Seekers to exercise some discernment when evaluating what a Master can bring us, or where he can lead us. That is all I saw in it at first. It wasn't something of great importance, even if I tended to emulate this attitude to some extent, out of the natural human tendency to emulate the actions or habits of people we perceive as being of exemplary value.

However, now it's becoming something more important in its own right: With the turn of the century, it seems that the last of all the people I perceived as *my* own Masters are slowly fading into memory... I remember talking with Madhu last year, who was kind of unsure he was really qualified to be a Teacher or a Master, as I was telling him something like: Look, if *you* don't Teach, then who can, and who will? All your Masters are dead now, and the few who aren't yet are now so old that it's just a matter of months or very short years. If *you* don't help the people out there, where else can they turn to? Televangelists?

He thought about it and agreed that, indeed, there is little choice for those like us. If not by inclination, then we ought to do it out of a sense of duty, and perhaps of gratitude for those who, in their time, trail blazed the Way for us. He added something like "but that's as valid for you than for me, no?" I said yes, I guess it is. But I just dislike being in the public eye, while you don's care. So at any rate, it's easier for you to do it.

As I see it, I don't want to be an acknowledged guru. In a way, on this issue, I am the very contrary of you: I don't care much about people's opinions about me, or perceptions of me. In fact, I don't even care much about my own opinions about myself. And if people don't even know I exist, as far as I am concerned, all the best, and all the Praise and Glory to Allah! :)

However, if asked, it is clear it is indeed my duty to at least point in the direction of the Way. And if I transmit any knowledge to anyone, it has to be *practical*, and usable. Pure theories are great as amusement for the mind, but they won't put any bread on one's table, or lead anyone any closer to Awakening or Enlightenment.

> I have downloaded the eBook software. It is still good to write a book, because the journey is not over, no matter where I want to go. I thought the title "the difficulties of being ah-san wong" was pretty good--it is full of struggles and human follies, and since I am not even me, not asw, so it adds additional difficulty to be me, or to be anyone, or simply to be. So asw or mu-lan or anything else, it is no importance. But this we can talk about later.

Well, the thing is *I* would not put my real name on anything even remotely autobiographical, as a matter of principle. (And what is that's not, in a way, autobiographical? :)

But, again, that's just me. And then, "erasing one's personal history" was one of the practices I learned from one of the lineage of Teachers that was the closest to my heart, so even if I think this is valid, and useful to abide by, I must admit that I could be a bit prejudiced here?;)

> p.s. this seems to remain true: mind is man's greatest pride, and also man's most deadly enemy

Mind is a trickster. Enjoy the show, but never take it too seriously.

Peace and Blessings,

F.

5/19/2004

I am not only out, I am disillusioned. Seems suddenly all the wisdoms are shut away from me. I so enjoyed Paradise, and now I hate It. Should I try to go back? Was I a interesting and lovely person when I was There?

Was going to write a travelogue of Paradise, but now I think I'm going to really take a rest, from everything. Everything is an illusion--man thinks God is an illusion and God knows man is an illusion, only man feels proud but bitter, and God is devilishly fascinating and beautiful and loving and infinite and forgiving and indescribably generic and capricious. Man hates God, because man can never win.

I feel bitter and defeated. I hate God and I turn away from God. I know God loves me and will repeatedly forgive me, yet I hate Him.

What can I say? I am inexperienced, hopeful, and curious. And now I know better.

What is real at the present is what is real for me. I'm turning away and I am going to do the things *I* love--words and music. Words and music are good friends--they never deceive me, and they give me infinite joy. So tonight I will let them be my companions. Religions and philosophies are probably not my cup of tea.

I need some rest.

-- edited email excerpts to JF, Rong

I think/feel/know that I am getting a little wiser now, after this trip to Paradise. Illusion or not, Paradise is nice, and I can add it to my list of places I've been to.

---

ST's comment was, "this is all extremely boring". It was a blow. G said to me last week that he found the New Age people seeking enlightenment "very boring" and "dead". I would not want to be boring and dead. Although I know it is all what I feel that counts, but I care deeply the opinions of the people I care about too. And I want to be interesting and lively to my friends.

So, I will put a stop for this enlightenment subject, at least for now. It seems like there are only two sides, or two actions--either you on this side or do this, or you are on that side and do that. When you are God, you know man is an illusion. When you are a man, you think God is an illusion. Enlightenment is also a personal choice, an experience one choose to go through. Right now I am on the side of man, and I am lucid with all human confusions. When I was God I was lucid with all God's wisdom.

I'm back to where I started, with new insights to spiritual things. I can probably use the enlightened state as a tool when I want to feel exalted in order to create.

Strangely enough, all your advices are still good for all practical purposes. I have downloaded the eBook software. It is still good to write a book, because the journey is not over, no matter where I want to go. I thought the title "the difficulties of being ah-san wong" was pretty good--it is full of struggles and human follies, and since I am not even me, not asw, so it adds additional difficulty to be me, or to be anyone, or simply to be. So asw or mu-lan or anything else, it is no importance. But this we can talk about later.

I'm going to find something enjoyable to do now--Books, writing, music.

p.s. this seems to remain true: mind is man's greatest pride, and also man's most deadly enemy.

Today I am out. I am not IN. I am out and I am back. I am trying to summarize what I've learned, the positive things of course. I feel I just want to write poetry all the time now (perhaps poetry is intrinsic in man?). Paradise is nice and I've been There. It is a constant struggle for man to surrender. The stronger the man, the harder he fights, and the greater the reward if he loses, or wins, or reconciles.

p.s. another "quotable" i wrote today:

mind is man's greatest pride
and also his deadly enemy

-- email excerpt to JF

嗯,别笑 / 笑也成 / 笑吧

最近,我去了一趟天堂
看到了语言无法形容的感觉
是光是海是生命是真理是完美是神圣是永恒是存在是终极是唯一的乐园
我看着是好的,说,这一切都是我的

把这一切都记录下来吧,告诉家乡的朋友
我看着想着思索着陈述着,乐园已不再

思想是人类最骄傲的财产
也是人类最致命的敌人

----

做人真累啊!天堂真妙啊!人真骄傲啊!神真伟大啊!人真可爱啊!人真伟大啊!做人真累啊!做人真好啊!

Apparently I am out IT. When I'm out, I think. I think whether it is important to go back IN. Paradise lost. I suppose I can use all kinds of religious terms to describe my yearning to return to Paradise, and my doubt to remain human, in love with myself, turning away from God, and suffering. I can see myself becoming a relgious fanatics, or seeking magic beans. Paradise does exist, for me. Or is it all but an illusion? Illusion or not, Paradise is Paradise. Although I take pride in being human, alone but human, I shall also take pride when I find Paradise again. Then I shall rest.

A constant struggle between me and God. The age old tale, of a constant struggle to surrender.

I takes pride to be man, because I can think. I think, therefore I am. Yet I do not

D says people do it in the 60s. I know they do it in California. Many people do it, and know the secrets. But what shall I care? My life is my own personal experience. I am the only one there is. Yet, I still need to find my own way, be myself. I am stil me. I am always me.

The only thing I have learned is, it is nice to be in Paradise.

email excerpt from F.

> Sorry I am still writing so much.

But you can't write too much! It's just my wood chopping, which interferes with me being a productive Master (and let’s not to forget the water-carrying part, it does not help either...) ;)

> As you can see, my mood has been swinging widely today. I am really getting better to be just myself--very emotional, low self-esteem, unfocused....

You know, here is a deep secret. A really BIG one: Don't take anything seriously, and first, of course, not yourself (or, for that matter, me, or anyone else).
So, then, since it's of no importance, don't be surprised if you found it perfectly OK if you were unfocused and emotional, and self-esteem were low.
And the moment it all becomes OK, then, there is no problem with any of it anymore... Then, the weight of these considerations might start to fade away…
In the words of the Old Master himself: Just have the patience to wait till the mud settles and the water clears. Remain unmoving, and the right action will arise by itself.
Do so, and it will.

> So I tried to think some more about this circular thinking business. I thought, I would have to have a meta-enlightenment to overcome all the gained insights, which is basically no insight at all. (Yeah, zen no zen, insight no insight, enlightenment no enlightenment.) And I came to this positive realization, that -

> Enlightenment is a way of living, not a way of thinking
so to be alive, one has to live / to live is to love / to love is to be


See, you *were* enlightened, for a moment, and something of it is left. ;)
As the water digs its own channel, its flow is less and less impeded.

> and here I should end the circular thinking.

Or just observe it, enjoy the fun of it, and laugh.

> From hearsay, I figured that Taoism is "a way of living", so perhaps I should study its practical theory. Buddhism and Ch'an are only good for people who want to be quiet or playful, not good for serious and passionate people like me. Perhaps Zhuang'zi is good for me, since he seems more active than Lao'zi, and into the appreciation of the nature kind of things. Of course, all my studies are just my own interpretation of their respective interpretations of the same thing. I learn from them whatever I want to learn. In the end I am still my own master.

Again, Masters, in essence and ultimately, are just guys holding a lamp. Sometimes, they do so in golden temples amidst rare incenses. But more often than not they look more like Diogenes in his barrel. Even so, the lamp is still an invitation for you to use your eyes. So to see.
Of course, at a lower level, Masters can also be freedom givers, if you use them to delegate the taking of decisions you are not inclined to take yourself.

> Thought about this thing about me being unfocused. Thought about getting a master. Hmmm, now I understand what you mean by me needing a master. Perhaps I really need one; so one decision takes care of all decisions. Would you keep this in mind? Oh, silly that I ask. I know you have always had this in mind.

Like some like to be vain, others like to play Masters (and preferably of the lower order, that is, exalted ones. ;)
However, and objectively, a Master can be quite useful: To quote the Old One again, to be given all-that-is, the easiest and most painless path is to abandon all-there-is. In other words, it is a lot easier to use an external Agent, rather than the internal one. Even if, in the end, if successful, they will prove to be One.
However, as exciting or promising the Master thing might be, let’s keep in mind what the Younger Master said: “When one's attachments are deep, one’s divine endowments are shallow.” Which goes both ways.

> She also suggested me writing my thoughts down and share with people. I said I would, and told her that we might be writing a book on this.

It's easy, really. All we have to do is talk, see the pages accumulate naturally as leaves grow in the garden, and then put all of it in book form.

> I have even thought of a good title for my book. "The difficulties of being Ah-San Wong". Sorry it is already so "full of myself". What can I say?

You shouldn't call her Ah-San Wong, but Mu-Lan, or something. :) And besides, there is nothing that difficult in it: All you need is to throw yourself at the feet of the right Master (preferably one that is not getting free Club Fed vacations too often ;), and enjoy being yourself. J

5/18/2004

meta-enlightenment

My mood has been swinging widely today. I am really getting better to be just myself--very emotional, low self-esteem, unfocused....

So I tried to think some more about this circular thinking business. I thought, I would have to have a meta-enlightenment to overcome all the gained insights, which is basically no insights at all. (Yeah, zen no zen, insight no insight, enlightenment no enlightenment.) And I came to this positive realization, that -

enlightenment is a way of living, not a way of thinking
so to be alive, one has to live
to live is to love
to love is to be

and here I should end the circular thinking.

From hearsay, I figured that Taoism is "a way of living", so perhaps I should study its practical theory. Buddhism and Ch'an are only good for people who want to be quiet or playful, not good for serious and passionate people like me. Perhaps Zhuang'zi is good for me, since he seems more active than Lao'zi, and into the appreciation of the nature kind of things. Of course, all my studies are just my own interpretation of their respective interpretations of the same thing. I learn from them whatever I want to learn. In the end I am still my own master.

-- email excerpt to F.

the difficulties of being ah-san wong

read this when i am down:

always do the things i enjoy
no matter what, so not to lose sight of life
for to be a man, one is to live
and in the end, there is only love

true enlightenment is a way of living, not a way of thinking
all thoughts are circular, only movement gives a sense of life
for to live is to move
and the meaning of life is to love

to love is to be with the world
the world is myself, and i am the world
love is the only thing that is not an illusion
because to love, is to be

be man, be god, it's all the same
no need to feel divine or humble or insane
live to be a colorful illusion of myself
be alive, love, and simply be

there is never an end, but only beginning
answers are the beginning of a journey
be myself, and continue my search
-- passionate search for beauty, truth, and love

No escape

All thinkings are circular.
Everything is an image of everything else.
Everything is itself.
No escape.

Everyone is himself.
Everyone is whom he wants to be.
I am only myself and I can only be myself.
No escape.

What's the point of enlightenment, if I am still myself!
I have all the answers, but all the answers won't help me if I don't know who I am.
No escape.

The only good thing is, now I have the map.
I can go back to Being if I want to.
Finally, an escape?

Today I am a little depressed. Ha, that sounds strange, knowing that now I know all the answers of everything, right? Well, I think I am just too smart for my own good. Really. I am still me. I am always me. I shall always be me. One way to think of it is, I am doomed, because I shall always have my follies unless I work hard to get rid of them. Of course the other way to think of it is, I am doomed, so I might as well have fun. And since I am Ah-San and nobody else, I swing between these two extremes, and now I know better, I can just swing better. What do you say? Even though I know I am God, there's no escape that I am always human, and not just any human but Ah-San Wong....

It is interesting to see how my mood changes every day as I gain more insights. And of course I know this will go in circles and good mood will come back. See, no need to worry that once you are "up there", you shall not fall. I'm not falling in one sense, but I am falling in another sense.

Everything is a reflection of everything else, and of itself.... Buddhism won't save me, because I know better than that. I will have to want to practice one way or another, in order to practice. I am so smart now that I can tell myself whatever I want myself to believe, and I can tell myself not to believe whatever I tell myself.

I will stop now if I don't want to become insane.
---

Well, as God, I should be able to say, "Let there be light" and then turn back on the Light. But now I know even better than God. I know that even Light is an illusion.

At least this is what a depressing God/man would say.

See, nothing ever changes. Nothing shall ever change. The better I know, the more confused I become. Haha! I will just have to be able to laugh at all these once in a while, laugh at the imperfection of God and myself (who else are there anyway?), and say "This is good".

Hmmm, just read Genesis 1 and gained some new insight. After all, this world is a truly fascinating place! No need to be depressed about being myself. Who am I anyway?

I think the reason why I can feel contentment once in a while is that I have come to a full circle of things and I know the ups and downs of Being.

Someone suggests that I should use this period of time to think and to write. I think that's a good advice. I think I shall keep writing and maybe one day I will find true fulfilment as a human, and be proud of myself. I am having so much insights into everything that it is just incredible.
---

Everything happens so fast these days. I can't believe I have gone through a whole cycle of knowing/being - awe - vain - depression - contentment/being, in just such a short time. Gee, I am smart, I am wise, I am divine, I am human, I am everything all at once, yet I am still me, and I am smart, .... go on and on, always, and at the same time, and nothing...

I am too introspective and it is not always good. One should be able to know when to stop.

-- email excerpts to JA

>xw wrote:
>谢谢阿珊高论,能不能提出一个数学模型呢?
>我感觉创世纪是一种精神,大爆炸与其是一脉相承的。

你是说具体的物理数学模型,还是说 metaphysics 意义的数学模型?具体的我肯定说不出来。因为一切事物都是可以用数学来模拟的,而所有模拟都是其它模拟的模拟,或者是逻辑的模拟,(万物都是互相的影像),所以在 metaphysics 的层次,所有数学模拟在某种角度上都是正确的,但要需要人(科学家)的适当诠释。(我不是在推卸责任。世界上的事就是这样的。)

对不起,今天想多了,有些宿命之感。聪明反被聪明误。再省悟的,再明察的先知,也要时不时告诉自己,难得糊涂。宇宙真是一个大圆圈,转来转去,谁也逃不出去,人啊神啊佛啊天使啊先知啊。都是那么回事儿。

>>星期六那天忽然我明白了为什么布鲁诺,伽利略,牛顿,爱因斯坦,都那么敬畏“创物主”。对数学对科学的研究和领悟深了,到一定程度一定会遇到这个“终极”的,就自然要拜服。当然他们受时代限制,领悟到的Ultimate的就是西方的神,或说他们只能用基督教的教义来与世人沟通。
>>
>
>其实他们都在升华了西方的上帝,或者说,上帝给了他们一颗冷静的
>身心,他们却用来丈量上帝。

我读了一段布鲁诺的文字,他对上帝的敬畏,跟我悟道时的感觉是一样的。他在书里“证明”无穷大的存在,就是说,人能想象出不可想象的东西来=人的伟大(万能=能己所不能)与渺小(一切又都预先存在,而不是个人能造出来的),也是那个“即是亦非”的道理的翻版。我前几年啃了几章“Godel, Escher, Bach”那本书,受益匪浅。那书就是把逻辑,数学,禅,以及其它毫无相关的事物(美术和音乐),放在一起,说明一切都是一切的模拟。当时明白了他讲的道理,但无法感受,只觉得自己是在省悟的边缘。现在忽然“知道”了。

>这三种现象不一样。北极光根源太阳风,而佛光海市更多的是空气密
>度不同造成的折衍,路面的假水是空气密度差造成的低角度反射。
>
>至于UFO,没见过,没有仔细观察、记录和分析怎么思考呢?

对啊,都是光的不同形式,是幻影嘛!

>推荐再看看圣经的启示录,佛教的法华经,里面有些东西很飞驰,不易
>领悟。

好,我读一读!XW你对宗教有很多研究啊!有时间请详细指导一下(哪里找书?网上有吗?哪里网购?中文还是英文?),也许我们可以交换心得。

(越来越发现自己不是研究学问的。)

-- 于玛雅咖啡店

This enlightenment is really no good! The part about "chop water carry wood" is so so so so true. I can only be myself and no one else. And I can do what I do and nothing else. I am still the same! This is really sad.
---
actually we are all kind of trapped. now all i think of is how to make what i learn "useful". but in the end i will learn that nothing can be of any use to me or anyone. i can only be who i am, and no one else, no matter what i do. the Way says, do the thing that interests you the most. go with the flow....... freedom of choice??? we are trapped, no matter how much we can jump out, and claim we are God. we always go back to the same place. it's a circle. nothing comes in and nothing goes out. no wonder some pessimistic enlightened monks would want to burn themselves and die.

one can only be oneself. one is doomed....

one is self, one is god, one is nor self nor god, one is nothing. in the end, there is nothing, and there is IT.

the conclusion is: if one is easily confused, one will just get even more confused. and one can still be depressed, probably even more, after enlightenment. one can never escape one's "fate". this is no good.......

jump out! jump in! jump up! jump off! or be still.... and be content.

everything is itself.
---
I am still myself! When I am happy I like it and when I am unhappy I don't like it. Although I have all the answers in the world I still can be sad, if that's the way I am. I still have to find my way on my way. Nothing is changed. Nothing shall ever change! One day I will see more clearly the "freedom of choice, and the godliness of human", and I will be active. Another day I will see more clearly the "nothingness and emptiness and uselessness of everything", and I will be passive. Yet another day I will see the "inescapable fate of being human", and I will be depressed. I can still jump out of these systems, but I shall never. I will still be the only person who can decide what I want to believe, and how I want to live. I am the only person who decides when and where to end the cycle of thinking, and to choose an attitude. I still have to find a direction and a "goal". I still have to be myself.

The more I think about it, the crazier I get.... I'm too smart for my own good.

Actually, this "chop wood carry water" analogy has its own reflection (these days I have too many words in my mind and I can't decide on a right word for this--mirror, image, projection, version, impression, copy, etc.). See, before IT, I am scattered and shy and unable to focus; after IT, I am still scattered and shy and unable to focus. I suppose I will have to act like God to overcome myself being human (I mean, being myself). Boy, even enlightenment is not the ultimate. Even IT is not IT.

Hmmm, last night I read one page of Gödel Escher Bach book, and incidentally came across the concept that outside Zen, there is not Zen, or even Zen is not complete. I hope the above realization "IT is not IT", shows that I am still learning more about IT and getting better. Maybe this will make me humble again.

I am interested in the subject "what kind of people are more likely to get IT and why". Do you think it would be a good subject to explore? The basic theme would actually be, "why are people the way they are". For example, in one of my earlier email I asked the question, "what kind of people are atheist?" Since everyone is only a mirror image of anyone else. Would be very interesting to draw a comparison chart of atheist vs. vegetarian vs. Christian vs. biologist, etc. and see the common things in them. Maybe this is the area of social science or psychology?

As I am writing this, I am gradually understanding where epistemology fits in this big scheme of things. It is to be able to "jump out of the system" and see the common things between seemingly completely different things. In mathematics it is called mapping, one-to-one mapping. Yes, since everything is an image of everything else, everything is a reflection of itself, the trick now for me (if I want to pursue this) is to find a subject of real interests to me and produce a work.

Wow, it is true, the channel is getting deeper and wider....

> You are getting Chinese. :) Zen is just Ch'an Buddhism (or
> however it is written today in pinyin. And think, you can
> even read the Old Master in the original text!

I was about to read Lao'zi and Zhuang'zi later today, because I actually have their books with translations (Chinese translations, of course! since the original is quite difficult to understand, unless I want to devote my time to do my own translation, which can be interesting--like what you did to Bruno's work). If I learn some more about these things, I should definitely write a book about comparative religion.

This experience is really telling me a lot about who I am. I need to listen quietly and learn what I am telling myself. What I have learned so far is--science is really not my cup of tea. My original interest in physics lies in the implication of metaphysics, and now I get META-physics, so science is no longer that interesting to me. Seems all my life I have been preparing myself for THIS. But I really should pick a direction and go. I will keep writing, since I have always liked writing. And I will somehow make myself a celebrity too. And maybe I will learn more music, and other fun things in life.

Gödel Escher Bach is really a monumental book. I doubt I can produce anything better than that. But again, he is probably a mathematician and a musician and a computer scientist, so he can do a god job applying the principles in these areas. I don't have an area of expertise yet.

-- email excerpt to F.

xw wrote:
阿珊用点时间参悟参悟那个所谓的“大爆炸”,我总觉得有点创世纪
的阴影呢?再说,创造其理论的那些个人,都在娘肚子里经历了不少
飞机上扔下来的炸弹的轰击声。(一战二战,世界大战!)

我请教过一些个博士,都说,这是宇宙学天文学物理学上公认的事情
了。。。

当然,“创世纪”当年也是公认的事啊!


好,我参悟一下。嘿嘿,这大爆炸俺也“公认”过了呢。其实我想,这物质的世界啥的,谁创,啥时创,怎么创,都不绝对的,都是真正“创”的不同翻版,即,不同版本的幻影。那当代的科学家用了科学的尺度来看“宇宙/being”,看到的是大爆炸;当年的创世纪也是当年人用他们的“眼睛”看到的。话说回来了,每个人看到的都是不是同的,因为都是各种各样的“影像”,都是自己的“版本”。要能看过这些,超越这些,就不会被这样那样的“理论”而迷惑。但这不是说就要主张大家“无为”(这个词是这个意思吗?最好啥事不做),除非你想不做。宇宙/being实在是太奇妙了,人只有这一生,不去尽情“参悟”,去欣赏,去学习,去歌颂,去沉浸其中,去看,去听,去摸,去品,去爱,去体验,去“做人”,真要浪费了。所以,如果是物理学家,能被宇宙的物理方面的奥妙所捕捉,那么一定会去尽所一生去在物理方面探讨的,而不会因为“看开了”,悟了,就说这一切是幻想而不去追求。归根结底,人总是人,人总是要做人的事。

星期六那天忽然我明白了为什么布鲁诺,伽利略,牛顿,爱因斯坦,都那么敬畏“创物主”。对数学对科学的研究和领悟深了,到一定程度一定会遇到这个“终极”的,就自然要拜服。当然他们受时代限制,领悟到的Ultimate的就是西方的神,或说他们只能用基督教的教义来与世人沟通。

哎,世界上的事都是来来回回的变幻。。。

(哇,这几天我一写就一大片,好像很多道理都要借机从我这里“流”出来。我该开个讲学班。)


我到现在是光速恒定还是不能诚心地接受。昨天思虑了佛光,北极光
和海市的问题,解了夏日路面上经常见的假积水问题。


好!你觉得这几个现象是有直接关系吗?那 UFO 呢?


望阿珊能用这段难得的时间反思些问题,至少多写些飞扬的字句。


谢谢谢谢!真是好建议。那天还想重写自己版本的 Gibran's Prophet 呢。他肯定也是悟道了的,现在一看他写的,就全明白了。只恨自己文笔不够好(嗯,恐怕比李洪智的好些,我该看看他怎么写的),读的书也不博,吸收的知识也不牢。。。好多事都要去做啊!其实这些天,每天都反思正思好些问题,脑子简直都跟不上思路了,手更跟不上了。

adagio wrote:
阿珊是不是又失恋了?

女人要开悟,第一条就是要看到罗曼蒂克恋爱的虚幻和荒缪。


哈哈,恋爱也看开了。男人女人也是假象。做女人就好好去做,想爱就爱去呗,想结婚就结婚呗。你这个慢板呢?现在又恋了吗?

(写到“看开”这个用得滥了的词,想:中文说,凡事要看开;西方宗教说,抛弃理智,去信就是了;逻辑哲学说,跳到系统外面看。我跳到这三个系统外面看,全是一个东西不同演绎而已。)

email from master.

> I hope it is OK for me to still be vain, and want to be admired! Of course I know it is OK, because it is me, and there's only me, and I can only be whomever I want to be and I can only be me, and I am actually nobody anyway. And whatever!
But of course! ;) It wouldn't be as fun without it. :)

> Interesting to see that today everything becomes Zen- or Buddhism- like in me. It is so true that Being takes many forms (how else!), so today IT is Zen-Buddhism or whatever IT looks like. I want to follow the progression and see how every day I assimilate more things into Being.
You are getting Chinese. :) Zen is just Ch'an Buddhism (or however it is written today in pinyin. And think, you can even read the Old Master in the original text!

> (I started today by writing a "poem", probably too long, but it's a start)
See, you got it. ;)

> Back to the topic of being vain -- you have to tell me that I am the only girl you know who get IT.
Now, *this* is going to stroke your vain-ness in the sense of the fur, like people say in French, because fact is that you are only only female I personally know who ever got IT. ;) Actually I of course met a couple holy Indian women, about whom one could legitimately suppose that they share that state with you, but I couldn't say for sure.

> Or you can tell me you know a bunch of them. Either way, but the truth is better, since it is no importance and I don't get jealous anymore (because there's only me and not me anyway). But still, since I am still me and I am vain, it pleases me to feel "special", as "special" as myself. Haha! What contradiction!
Remember: Before, carry water and chop wood. And after, still the same. :) But you will notice that you will get less and less vain as the experience leaves a deeper and deeper channel...

> Actually I am curious to know how easy it is for anyone to get IT (what percentage of people, what types of people more likely, what age, etc.),
You know, this too is an interesting question. One I do not know the answer for. Except that they are usually older people, and more likely to be males, it seems.

> since it seems rather difficult for me, through a long, painful, blind process, in real human life anyway.
Indeed, it's not something that happens overnight. ;) But I do not believe the process has to be necessarily painful.

> I think I only know you.
I have seen quite a few people who obviously got it at the house of a friend who organizes spiritual (the house I am trying to get since he is moving out).

> I want to reply your email too, but later. I need to finish some work at school.
We we all have to carry water and chop wood. :)

上星期我忽然悟道了(顿悟!),然后我得道了。。。狂喜!手舞足蹈!好些东西忽然从我脑子里跑了出来,写下来一看,好像是 文字游戏,是逻辑游戏,是禅?反正就是这东西本身,就是我,就是影子,就是什么也不是。反正就是就不是。哈哈!好玩儿!这个世界真好玩儿。这个世界就是 我。我真好玩儿。哈哈!

胡言乱语。别介意。

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> xw wrote:
It's like Guo1-Mo4-Ruo4's Goddess, you really got someting.

Hey, I didn't get "something". I get it. I get IT. I simply get. And IT is me and I am it. And I get me....

神 奇吧?你想(其实是我在想),我从来都对宗教和哲学的东西不感任何兴趣,也没有读过任何这些方面的书,也不认识这类的人,(自己是读理科的,觉得自己很有 小聪明的那种人),忽然间我嘴里蹦出来的全是“真理”。说明了,一切都存在着,等着你我去应验。可,真理又是什么?一切又是什么?存在又是什么?你我又是 什么?应验又是什么?什么又是什么?

另:虚心请教,哪个郭沫若的女神?是首诗吗?

(本来想说,郭沫若是谁?女神是谁?我是谁?)

请不要介意,I can just go on and on and on like this, and can't stop. 好玩而已!真心祝大家早日得道。

Love and peace to all...

狂喜中。。。
Eternal happiness.
Eternal being.
Being.

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> Zili:
^_^,这叫做缘起性空,是也。近读赵朴初会见毛主席事。毛问赵,佛教里有一个规则,叫,赵朴初,非赵朴初,名赵朴初,有无这个规则。
赵答毛主席,说,有这个规则。
毛问,何以先肯定,后否定?
赵答,不是先肯定后否定,而是同时肯定也否定。
慧能反对神秀,他是个厨师,也非文科。但是,还是授传袈裟,取得正果也。
阿珊也是慧能。^_^。


这 几天来,经历了不少自我的更生。领悟到自己是海洋,是光,是神,是上帝,是生命,是博爱,是世界,是宇宙,是万物,是自然,是一切,是存在,是选择,是无 穷,是人,是佛,是我,是你,是他,是影子,是幻象,是尘埃,是禅,是欲,是非欲,是空,是无,是不是,不是,是,不,哈哈,阿姗,毛主席,咖啡店。。。

可 见,最浅显的得道是New Age的解说,海洋啊光啊的,天人合一;之后是基督教的,神啊爱啊的;之后是道,宇宙万物和自然;之后是感性的悟,宇宙真奇 妙,人的自由选择,人与宇宙的和谐;之后是理性的悟(这一步我最感微妙!),用逻辑与哲学证明了无穷的存在同等于绝对的存在,拜倒于人之无穷,人之万能, 人造神,神造人,人即神,神即我;之后是佛,一切尽是幻想,一切都是我,一切都是空;之后是禅,什么都不是什么,乱七八糟,疯疯癫癫的。

由 我这个例子看出,东方哲学比较西方宗教深奥些,美国(加州)的东西最简单。禅的东西好玩儿,越说越错,越说越糟,只好不说为妙。(奇怪的是,想是越想越奥 妙,说却不行,大概说明了思维的无穷,无穷即是万能,即是神,这些都是我们人想出来的,所以人是神。咦,那我呢?太晚了,有些糊涂了。)我该学多些宗教哲 学的名词,或许能把这些东西好好总结出来,看着玩儿。

都是同一个东西的不同表现,不同幻像,但如果一定要找个词来形容,我觉得英文的Being最模棱两可。不知中文有什么好字?

不过,既然我们现在是做人,The Way是最重要的:一方面要入世,要积极人生,另一方面又要随缘。

-- 于玛雅咖啡店

5/17/2004

Hmm, it is nice to be praised as a goddess, and be loved. I have always known I love to be admired and loved, and now I actually enjoy it much more. Haha! So great to be just myself and enjoy to be myself.

Yeah, I had always wanted to "fall", especially in the context of "falling in love". But now I know there's a better state than "falling in love". It is "to be in love", or "to be love", or "to be". Now I wonder if I will ever get bored with all these. I tend to get bored with anything fast, usually within 3 weeks. Hmmm, only 5 days so far and I have to wait and see. (Yeah, a bit tiring with the endless discoveries and realizations and wonders. Need more sleep.)

I have always knew I wanted "calm and burning" like the universe, but I said it merely to be poetic and didn't realize that these qualities are actually within myself. These days I am so full of myself, and I know I will soon become annoying. I will stop, and be normal and kind.

I feel (at least now) I am god and I am human and there is no importance whether I fall or not because I am still myself. I used to want to be sad, because I thought when I was sad, I could be closest to myself, and I could feel more deeply, and I could be more human. But now I think it doesn't matter if I am sad or not; everything is an illusion, and even emotions; if I want to be human (and that I do), I will just be sad when I want to and be happy when I want to, and I will let my emotions take over me when I want to... There's no other way to be.

Writing now becomes easier in the way that I am no longer afraid of anything, and I can just simply write what I want to write, and believe that everything that comes naturally comes from the "soul of the universe", and can only be good.

hmm, i am not sure about this now, because what i am saying here is that each of all human beings are good as long as he is being himself. is this true? are "evil" people not themselves? actually the other day i consulted Gibran about good&evil, and found this:

Of the good in you I can speak, but not of the evil.
For what is evil but good tortured by its own hunger and thirst?
Verily when good is hungry it seeks food even in dark caves, and when it thirsts, it drinks even of dead waters.
You are good when you are one with yourself.
Yet when you are not one with yourself you are not evil.
For a divided house is not a den of thieves; it is only a divided house.
And a ship without rudder may wander aimlessly among perilous isles yet sink not to the bottom.

see, he said "you are good when you are one with yourself", almost exactly as i just said (and further proves that everything is already out there and all we need to do is to "realize" them). so, ok, everyone/everything is good when in harmony (hey, i haven't used this word for a while).

-- email excerpt to JA